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Who: Pickman and Herbert West. Then Njoki too, once they get back her and Pick's place.
What: Pickman is meeting up with his old pal Herbie, and having the 'guess what I've been up to since college?' conversation.
Where: Valhalla Inn, then out and about, Mafaton-ward.
When: Today, mid-afternoon.
Warnings: Descriptions of Pickman's physical state. Probably, discussion of grave-robbing, cannibalism, and attempts to resurrect the dead.

He was nervous.

Funny, wasn't it? He'd chosen this life. This transformation. Leapt headlong into the abyss, and never regretted it for a minute. But now there was someone in Baedal who had known him only as a human being (albeit a strange one) and he was nervous about having the conversation with him, about what he was, what he'd done to himself and what he did. Herbert was an old friend -- not the closest, not even in his strange little 'inner circle,' but a friend nonetheless, someone he'd had long conversations with and who'd helped him out with more than one science class.

He had a while to think about it on his way to the Valhalla, trying to work out how to phrase his explanation, how to defend his choices. Trying to come to grips with the idea that this could be the last time he'd talk with Herbert. Because as soon as he stepped into the Inn on his little goat feet, and as soon as the other man laid eyes on him, it would be glaringly obvious he wasn't entirely human anymore.

By the time he was at the door, though, he was determined. He knew what to do, what to say. And he didn't hesitate as he stepped inside, scanning the room for a man he recognised from a lifetime ago.

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"Yeah?" Yeah, that doesn't sound nearly as interesting as 'bringing people back from the dead.' Still, Pickman is smarter than he looks. Or acts. And he can pull at least a couple things out of his memory that might pertain to what West is talking about. "Like that thing where you got the people who've been froze half to fuck an' they thaw out just fine? Or the thing with that gas you can put people under with?"

"The former. Even in those cases, there's currently a limit on the amount of time which can pass before the amount of damage to the brain would be too significant. I have evidence that this limit could be extended well past what is now possible or indicated by other research."

You know, standard science fair project stuff.

Pickman makes a chirpy sound, pleasantly surprised to find himself actually following what Herbert is saying. "Yeah? So, what -- the brain don't get enough oxygen, I know, it gets all fucked. You get shit goin' again, you've still got a vegetable. You got a thing -- a thing, an idea for how to undo that? Or just not let it get so bad?"

That... Is not a human noise, but the meaning is still clear, so no comment on that. If West is glad that he can follow, well, the reward is simply more discussion, and not any more vague smiling.

"The distinction would require more of an explanation. The damage specifically caused by a lack of oxygen actually occurs when circulation is restored. Eventually, decomposition becomes an issue..."

He nods, nodnodnods. "Yeah? And you're researchin' -- what? Keepin' the oxy from doin' that damage when it gets back in? Or -- what?"

"If these destructive processes can be halted and life and brain function restored past the current limitations, do you understand the implications? I need to know more about the state of medical science in this city."

If the destructive processes can be... and... oh. He stumbles to a halt, as it hits him fully. He's heard of magic to bring a person back from the dead. Who hasn't? But the cost was always unspeakably high. If it could be done with science, all aboveboard and measured-out, then...

"I'm gonna be out a fuckin' meal," he mutters, a wondering tone in his voice.

"Scavengers, you said," West comments, with no notable reaction to Pickman's revelation other than a lack of fear. He keeps walking a few steps, before he matches Pickman and comes to a stop.

Scavengers, he'd said. Yeah. sure. But why was Herbert -- oh. Oh.

"Fuck." If he had hackles to stand up, they would be. As it was, his shoulders went high and stiff, bracing for the shitstorm he was sure was about to happen. So much for that good start. Fuck. Fuck. "I -- ah, fuck."

"I'm not concerned, Richard," he says, dryly. He expects this to be obvious. "What you eat isn't my business, unless you ask my opinion."

"....seriously?" He knew Herbie was pretty unflappable, yeah, but this was -- unexpected. "Really?"

"To what exactly do you expect me to object? Scavenging does not imply killing. If you intended to kill me, you wouldn't be concerned with making a good impression, and if you made a regular habit of creating your own corpses, I doubt that I would be an exception by virtue of knowing you in college."

"No, fuck, I ain't one of those." His tone suggests that those is a more specific category than just murderers, but he doesn't elaborate on just what it does mean. "Just -- y'know. You're takin' this well." Even for a Miskatonic alumnus. "Ain't complainin', but, fuck." He giggles. "Kinda throwin' me for a loop-de-loop."

"I'm very curious," he says, after considering the matter over a short silence. "But I don't bear any illusions that cadavers are more than broken machines. I'm sure they would offer no objection."

"See, that's the fuckin' thing! Most people -- they don't fuckin' get that." He flails a little, gesturing unhappily. "But no one's gettin' fuckin' hurt, if they're followin' the laws! It's cleanup!"

"Most people aren't able to conceptualize their body after death without projecting their current awareness onto it. Many allow sentiment to get in the way of something as benign and beneficial to living people as organ donation. It's not rational." His frown deepens, but this is as close as he will get to 'flailing'.

"Thank you. You're a wonder, Herbie. You fuckin' know that." He starts to clop forward again, apparently accepting Herbert's acceptance. "You got any questions, I'll answer 'em how I can, yeah? Least I can do."

He does know that, but he's not going to waste time basking in praise for being reasonable. "There will be time for that. Radical advances in medicine are going to force people to reexamine these concepts about death and the nature of the mind, to which they cling. I can only touch on it briefly, now. I'm in a place where the rules are obviously different. I'll need some time."

"Yeah, yeah." He nods, bobbing his head like a bird. "I mean 'bout anythin'. I ain't been here that long, but I got a little on you, at least."

"Thank you," West says, and not anything else. Something on their walk may have caught his interest, or that's all he feels the need to say. He's not distracted, at any rate.